[Stein] Jrue Holiday is indeed available via trade, league sources say. It would surely cost a significant amount to pry him away from the Pels, but this is a notable change in status given how unavailable Holiday was to interested teams last season

据名记Marc Stein报道，联盟消息源透露，鹈鹕确实愿意将霍勒迪摆上货架。如果后者离开，肯定会造成鹈鹕实力的很大损失，可是他在球队的地位已有显著变化，毕竟上赛季的霍勒迪还是非卖品。

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[–]Pelicans 504Hardhead 537 指標 7小時前

Jrue probably wants out and I don't blame him. It would be cool to see him on a good team like the Heat, Clippers, or 76ers.

鹈鹕球迷：或许是霍勒迪想走，我不怪他。要是能看到他去热火、快船或者是76人这种强队也挺好。

[–]Raptors FoE_Archer 18 指標 7小時前

Don't see how clips or 76ers could construct a reasonable offer. The Heat is interesting though.

猛龙球迷：快船和76人怎么提出一笔合理的交易，这个不好说。不过热火肯定感兴趣

[–]19Dan81 39 指標 7小時前

Maybe the Bucks? Seems like a perfect fit.

或许雄鹿算一个？感觉霍勒迪和他们非常搭。

[–]Pelicans 504Hardhead 80 指標 7小時前

They have nothing to offer

鹈鹕球迷：他们没啥拿得出手的

[–]Hornets Bartins 24 指標 7小時前

They have a bunch of picks and can match salary. Don’t think it happens but they could make an intriguing offer.

黄蜂球迷：他们有几个选秀签啊，而且还能匹配薪资。虽说我觉得这笔交易不会发生，不过雄鹿还是可以提供一份有吸引力的报价的。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 7 指標 6小時前

Pels gonna ask for DiVicenzo

湖人球迷：鹈鹕会要迪文琴佐的。

[–]Bulls PhilAsp 11 指標 7小時前

Would Jrue even be interested in returning to Philadelphia?

公牛球迷：霍勒迪会有兴趣重返76人不？

[–]76ers hk0125 12 指標 6小時前

He loved his time in Philly so I don’t see why not

76人球迷：他很喜欢以前在费城的那段时光，所以干嘛会没兴趣呢？

[–]76ers lil_intro_vert_ 279 指標 7小時前

there’s no shot we trade for him. no pieces to make a deal work

Embiid- no

Horford- Pels wouldn’t want him

Harris- no/ Pels probably wouldn’t want him

Richardson- only makes 10 mil/we need his shooting

Ben- can’t be traded til summer/no

76人球迷：我们压根就没可能得到他。没有可以促成这笔交易的资本啊。

恩比德-不行，霍福德-鹈鹕不想要，哈里斯-不行/也许鹈鹕也不想要，理查德森-年薪只有1000万/而且我们也需要他的篮子，西蒙斯-不行/而且只能等到夏天才可以交易。

[–]76ers fightthegoodfight17 162 指標 7小時前

I’d kill to have him back though

76人球迷：要是霍勒迪能回来，那我可高兴坏了。

[–]76ers lil_intro_vert_ 80 指標 6小時前

i wanted us to trade for him last year before we got Tobias. With this roster idk how he’d fit, I would love him though. Jrue was always one of my favorites

76人球迷：上赛季我们得到哈里斯之前我还是希望霍勒迪能回来的。有了现在这套阵容之后，不知道霍勒迪是否还适合。不过我还是蛮喜欢他的。他一直都是我很喜欢的球员之一。

[–]Trail Blazers EPIC_Deer 72 指標 5小時前

A defensive combo guard that can run the point and work offball? Nut.

开拓者球迷：一个可以打控卫和无球的防守型双能卫？好啊

[–]76ers iH8Celtics 34 指標 5小時前

That's what we're trying to turn Jrich into

76人球迷：我们就想把理查德森改造成这样。

[–]Heat y0ungw0lf 29 指標 4小時前

Haven’t seen him this year but JRich running the point was always a scary though. He has no court vision and average handles. So damn good at almost everything else though.

热火球迷：这赛季还没看过他比赛，不过让理查德森打控卫还是很让人担心的。他没有大局观，控球又一般。但是他几乎其他各方面能力都特么很好。

[–][DET] Tayshaun Prince erwillsun 26 指標 6小時前

funnily enough i actually had the sizers trade Harris for holiday in my 2k mycareer

活塞球迷：有意思的是，我的2K生涯模式里确实让76人用哈里斯去换霍勒迪了

[–]76ers Freak_Fest 19 指標 6小時前

Idk about NO, but we wouldn’t do that IRL. Harris has been great for us.

76人球迷：鹈鹕怎么做不清楚，不过现实里我们是不会那么做的。哈里斯在我们这挺好的。

[–]Rockets soycameron 17 指標 6小時前

Would Jrue be better tho? A defensive lineup of Holiday Richardson Simmons Horford Embiid. How can anyone score? And on offense you got another ball handler who can also play off ball

火箭球迷：可是换成霍勒迪会不会更强呢？霍勒迪、理查德森、西蒙斯、霍福德和恩比德组成一套防守阵容，别人还怎么得分？而且进攻端，又多了一名可以打无球的持球人。

[–]76ers Freak_Fest 34 指標 6小時前*

Harris has actually been good defensively.

Harris is a better scorer and shooter than Jrue. He’s 2 years younger than Jrue and has gotten better each year while Jrue has actually looked like he’s gotten worse this year.

His 3P% for the year is low because of that 0/23 slump, but he’s shot 39% since. Even with his 3P% that low he still has a career high FG%. He’s shooting a career high 55.4% from 2 this year.

He’s the #2 option with everyone healthy, but he’s actually leading the team in FGA per game.

Jrue is a better playmaker, but we could probably get that somewhere else for cheaper.

We have a bigger need for a shot creator/playmaker off the bench. A Rose or Bogdanovi? type of player.

76人球迷：哈里斯这赛季的防守其实挺不错的。

哈里斯的得分和投篮比霍勒迪更好，而且他还小两岁，每年都在变强，而霍勒迪这赛季还真有点下滑。

哈里斯的三分命中率这赛季很低，那是因为有那一波23中0，可在那之后他的命中率是39%。即便如此，他的命中率也来到了生涯新高。他这赛季的两分命中率创下了生涯新高的55.4%。

76人全员健康的时候，哈里斯是队里的第二选择，不过他的场均出手次数其实是全队最高的。

霍勒迪的组织能力更强，不过我们或许能以更低的价格从其他地方找人。

我们更加需要的是一个具备机会创造和组织能力的板凳球员，就是罗斯和博格丹诺维奇这种类型的。

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[–]mar1n34 710 指標 6小時前

Jrue, Aaron, and Justin. It’s Holiday season in Indianapolis.

朱-霍勒迪、阿隆-霍勒迪、贾斯汀-霍勒迪，这是印第安纳波利斯的“假日”赛季啊

[–]Dennorak25 9 指標 6小時前

Indy doesn’t really need him, but we need to unite Aaron, Justin, and Jrue all on the same team.

步行者确实不需要朱-霍勒迪了，不过我们需要把所有的霍勒迪都集齐。

[–]Pacers CraftReaper5 149 指標 5小時前

As much as that would be awesome and I want Jrue, the fit would be bad imo

步行者球迷：这样肯定很有意思，我也想要朱-霍勒迪，不过我觉得他不适合我们。

[–]Pacers house_fire 219 指標 5小時前

Three guard, two big lineup

Jrue, Dipo, Brogdon, Sabonis, Turner

Who said wings were necessary in the modern NBA??????

步行者球迷：三个后卫两个大个的阵容：朱-霍勒迪、奥拉迪波、布罗格登、萨博尼斯和特纳

谁说现代NBA必须得要侧翼的？？？

[–]Trail Blazers fowaddaud 25 指標 4小時前

Ah the Blazers special. 3 undersized guards, 2 7 foot bigs

开拓者球迷：这可是开拓者专属，三个小后卫，两个7尺大个

[–]Raptors YSLAnunoby 63 指標 4小時前

At least all 3 of the guards can guard bigger than they are. Though it would be rough if they face an elite big wing like LeBron or Kawhi

猛龙球迷：至少朱-霍勒迪、奥拉迪波、布罗格登这三个后卫都能防比他们个子更大的球员。不过要是他们碰上詹姆斯和小卡这种顶尖的大个侧翼，那就麻烦了。

[–]Timberwolves CochonDanseur 37 指標 3小時前

no way anybody builds a playoff team in the East with zero plans for guarding Giannis

森林狼球迷：东部不管哪支球队只要有季后赛实力，肯定对防守字母哥这种球员有专门部署的。

[–]ProRage0 163 指標 7小時前

T-Wolves season

这应该是属于森林狼的赛季！

[–]Timberwolves SnarfSniffsStardust 7 指標 7小時前

Trade him to the wolves, we've got some picks to trade.have to clear up salary somehow and hopefully keep Roco. Be great for Wiggins who wants to play ball handler. Wiggy jrue Culver/okogie (whichever one isn't included in a trade) Roco and KAT could be cool

森林狼球迷：把霍勒迪送到森林狼吧，我们有些选秀签。还得清理出一些薪资空间，希望还能留住考文顿。霍乐迪要是来了，那对于一直想控球的维金斯而言可真是太好了。维金斯、霍勒迪、卡尔弗或奥科吉、考文顿再加上唐斯，这阵容很不错啊

[–]Nets Lambchops_Legion 34 指標 7小時前

I'm into it.

篮网球迷：我同意

[–]Suns iamadragan 52 指標 6小時前

For what? Teague, Culver, and a couple picks?

太阳球迷：拿啥换？蒂格、卡尔弗和两个选秀签？

[–]Timberwolves YepThatsSarcasm 60 指標 5小時前

Sounds the most plausible. Teague is expiring, Culver is a top end prospect (just below can’t miss). That’s gotta be what they’re looking for on an 18 month rental.

It’s not Culver and a couple of firsts though.

森林狼球迷：听着蛮靠谱啊。蒂格合同到期了，卡尔弗前途无量。这应该是鹈鹕想要的。不过不会是卡尔弗再加两个首轮了。

[–]Bucks Llamayoda 32 指標 4小時前*

Am I missing something or has culver just been pure booty so far?

He looks lost on the court when he plays and his shooting %s have been like Reddish’s except he’s a 43% free throw shooter.

I think the pelicans would much rather have Okogie than Culver.

雄鹿球迷：卡尔弗不是到目前为止都打得很菜鸡吗？难道我错过啥了？

他在场上显得很茫然，而且他的投篮命中率和雷迪什很像，只是他的罚篮只有43%的命中率。

我觉得比起卡尔弗，鹈鹕肯定更想留住奥科吉。

[–]Timberwolves DrWolves 26 指標 4小時前

He hasn’t been “pure booty” but he definitely hasn’t been good. He’s had several stretches of really good play where you get yourself thinking okay this guy can be pretty good... but no consistency whatsoever

森林狼球迷：卡尔弗并不是一直打得很菜，不过他肯定算不上好。他有那么几次打得确实蛮好，你就觉得这家伙以后肯定很厉害……不过他没有稳定性。

[–]Bucks Llamayoda 36 指標 4小時前

Ok, so he’s been a pretty standard rookie then.

雄鹿球迷：行吧，这么说他就是个标准的菜鸟了。

[–]Jazz CICERO9K 75 指標 6小時前

Zero clue how the deals would look like, but Minnesota/Miami/Dallas sound great

爵士球迷：完全不知道交易怎么操作，不过霍乐迪去森林狼、热火或独行侠听起来不错啊

[–]Pelicans 504Hardhead 58 指標 7小時前

Nuggets

鹈鹕球迷：还有掘金

[–]Jazz CICERO9K 10 指標 6小時前

As a Pelicans fan, much would you expect to get back for Jrue? Asking in general, not just about the Nuggets.

爵士球迷：你们鹈鹕球迷希望能从霍勒迪身上收回什么？不单指掘金哈

[–]Pelicans 504Hardhead 23 指標 6小時前

Something centering around Beasly and Harris

鹈鹕球迷：以马利克-比斯利和加里-哈里斯为重点的大礼包。

[–]Nuggets onemantrashcan 30 指標 6小時前

That’s doable, and I wouldn’t be upset if it went down.

Gary Harris, Malik Beasley, and Juancho Hernangomez. Money works. Juancho with more playing time could become a Bertans lite story. When he’s in rhythm, he’s a flame thrower.

掘金球迷：这个可以有，要是这种操作成功了，我也不会失望。

加里-哈里斯、马利克-比斯利和胡安乔-埃尔南戈麦斯，薪资这块儿是没问题的。埃尔南戈麦斯再多些出场时间的话，或许能成就贝尔坦斯那样的佳话。他找到感觉的话，火力全开。

[–]Nuggets CantHandleFacts 36 指標 5小時前

Nuggets have great chemistry the top defense and gary is our best wing defender. Don't ship Gary out we love him.

掘金球迷：掘金现在防守端的化学反应蛮好啊，而且哈里斯是我们最好的侧翼防守人。不能把他送走啊，我们很喜欢他

[–]ktran2804 18 指標 4小時前

Jrue is a top end defender in the league tho

不过霍勒迪可是联盟的顶尖防守人。

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[–]Knicks Mudkip4567 61 指標 7小時前

What happened to "This is Jrue Holiday's team" lmao

尼克斯球迷：不是说“鹈鹕是霍勒迪的球队”吗，这是咋了，哈哈哈

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 114 指標 6小時前

They realized him being the lead guy gives you 6 wins by mid-December lol

湖人球迷：鹈鹕意识到了，让霍勒迪当老大的话，到12月中旬球队还是只能赢6场

[–]Lakers rawchess 26 指標 5小時前

More like they realized he doesn't fit with Ingram in crunch time and is going to age himself out of this rebuild.

湖人球迷：倒不如说鹈鹕知道霍勒迪在关键时刻和英格拉姆不搭，而且要是让他参与重建的话只会蹉跎岁月。

[–]KnickedUp 17 指標 6小時前

He ain't a #1...but he would be a GREAT #3.

霍勒迪不是一把手的料……不过他会是个很强的三当家。

[–]Hornets Bartins 28 指標 7小時前

Not surprising. He doesn’t fit their rebuild timeline and would net a pretty large return. The smart move is to trade him now.

黄蜂球迷：霍勒迪离开我不奇怪。他和鹈鹕重建的时间线不搭，送走他还有很高的变现价值。明智之举就是现在交易他。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 212 指標 6小時前

It seems weird that they don’t wanna trade JJ, feel like he’ll want out to not miss the playoffs for the first time lol

湖人球迷：奇怪的是鹈鹕居然不想送走雷迪克，感觉雷迪克会想着走人，这样就不会生涯首次无缘季后赛了，哈哈哈

[–]Hornets Bartins 138 指標 5小時前

I’m pretty sure it’s just posturing to get teams to make better offers. Right now all they are likely getting offered is a 2nd and bad contract. They are going to want a 1st.

黄蜂球迷：我觉得鹈鹕这就是做做样子，从而拿到更好的报价。现在他们很可能只能得到一个2轮签和一个烂合同。他们想要的是首轮签。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 32 指標 5小時前

Yeah probably, he does have high trade value

湖人球迷：也许是的，霍勒迪的交易价值还是蛮高的

[–]Mavericks humax02 30 指標 4小時前

Reddick deserves a late 1st.Dude is a walking bucket from 3.

独行侠球迷：雷迪克值一个末位的首轮签吧，这哥们儿三分神准啊。

[–]76ers normalsizedpenis23 29 指標 2小時前

i mean he's old and making like 12 mil a year... if a team is willing to give up a first for jj they probably would have probably just offered him more mone during free agency and got him.

76人球迷：他年纪大了，年薪也有大概1200万……如果有球队愿意为了雷迪克要放弃首轮签，那他们倒不如在自由市场多给他些薪水不就完事了嘛。

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[–]Heat Heatlesback 35 指標 7小時前

Miamiiii

热火球迷：来迈阿密啊！

[–]PlsSaySikeM8 8 指標 5小時前

Jimmy and Jrue? Yes pls

巴特勒和霍勒迪？快点啊！

[–]Heat jbenson255 7 指標 6小時前

I’d love him on the heat

热火球迷：我希望他来热火

[–][MIA] Mario Chalmers 6PathsTrunks 30 指標 7小時前

Welcome to Miami Jrue

热火球迷：欢迎来迈阿密，霍勒迪！

[–]Jazz CICERO9K 6 指標 7小時前

How would a potential Heat offer look like?

爵士球迷：热火能提供什么筹码？

[–]Heat Milos305 15 指標 7小時前

Winslow,Nunn, Olynyk

热火球迷：温斯洛、纳恩、奥利尼克

[–]dripslide 6 指標 5小時前

He definitely fits in with the Heat. Not a fan but it would be tough to rid of Nunn or Herro if it came down to it.

霍勒迪和热火肯定搭。不是热火球迷，可要是热火为此要送走纳恩或者希罗，那就太难受了……

[–]Heat Imzarth 8 指標 3小時前

We're getting rid of Nunn 100%, No chance Herro is even an option

热火球迷：我们肯定会送走纳恩，但是希罗就别想了。

[–]Raptors TooMuchHoops 23 指標 7小時前

Jrue is a game changer for a LOT of teams. An elite defensive guard who can handle the ball and also switch onto larger guys?

Holiday is one of the few players I would consider giving up Lowry for. Obviously, we'd have to give up other substantial stuff too, but it would be worth it for a guy like Holiday.

The heat would maybe part with some of their young guns for Holiday. The Nuggets could put together a good package, the Blazers. If I were the Magic, I would be open to trading everyone not named Jonathan Isaac. Lots of options.

猛龙球迷：对于很多球队而言，霍勒迪是可以影响比赛的。这可是个防守顶级、能够换防大号对手、能控球的后卫啊。

我会考虑用洛瑞去换的球员不多，霍勒迪是其中之一。很显然，要想得到霍乐迪，我们还得再割点肉。不过这也是值得的。

热火为了得到霍勒迪，或许会出点年轻血液。掘金也能提供一份大礼包，开拓者也是。如果我是魔术高层，那我会乐于用艾萨克之外的任何人去换霍勒迪。鹈鹕的选择很多。

[–]Raptors whatisupworld 8 指標 6小時前

I would love to have Jrue on the Raptors. But we’d probably have to give up FVV, along with OG

猛龙球迷：我也想让霍勒迪来啊。不过我们或许得放弃范弗里特和阿奴诺比。

[–]Raptors Giannis2021 10 指標 6小時前

Pelicans did you know Norman Powell is averaging 20ppg as a starter?

猛龙球迷：鹈鹕啊，你知道鲍威尔要是打首发的话也能场均20的不？

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